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Archbishop Kevin's Pastoral Letter - October 2007

Summary of Conversations in Deaneries

 


SUMMARY OF DEANERY CLERGY CONVERSATIONS

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CLERGY RESPONSES

Towards a Vision

LENT 2007

            Diocesan clergy met in their deanery groups to prepare to implement the Towards a Vision programme and to explore the questions posed as the ordained ministry of the Church. The time spent together in prayer and reflection gave an opportunity for clergy in the Deanery and priests often in parishes on their own, to listen to each other and explore the hopes, fears and challenges existent in their particular ministry and parishes today. 

The following pages contain the distillation of their thoughts, the range of hopes and concerns expressed in their meetings and are presented here to support the ongoing work on framing a vision for the future of this diocese. 

Aspects of parish, deanery and diocesan life that were frequently mentioned are printed in bold type. 

There is some repetition. This is inevitable as the responses were noted at each stage of the process. Discussions evolved through Growing in Communion and Reaching Out in Mission through to focusing on Facing the Future. This summary report faithfully presents the notes on the clergy meetings as they happened. 

Diocesan clergy were also involved in parish discussions and participated in the deanery presentations to our Area Bishops.


 
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GROWING IN COMMUNION

The statements on the following pages are a summary of the clergy responses to these questions:

1                 What are the most important elements in developing the life of the parish? Which have been most effective - what is it that makes you feel that you belong to your parish/deanery/ diocese? Why?
 

2                  What are the key challenges we encounter in developing communion and unity in the parish/ deanery/diocese? How can we best respond to these challenges?
 

3            
   From the vision of the Church as communion, what priorities emerge for our parish/ deanery/diocese? What implications do they have for the way we work with each other? 

4                   
What resources, ministries and activities can we identify to bring these priorities into reality? (e.g. Liturgy? Catechesis? Ecclesial Movements? Movements that promote marriage and family life? Shared commitment to justice, peace and pro-life movements? Ethnic Associations/Chaplaincies?)
 

  


KOINONIA

 


Koinonia is about knowing, loving and serving – God and each other

Communion is community in action

All we do is for the glory of God

A community needs to be both active and contemplative

Koinonia is both vision and process

Church is a sacrament and not an end in itself

Church is a sign and instrument of the kingdom ‘...only the kingdom is absolute...’ Paul VI

Koinonia, Mission and Evangelisation are intimately connected

Sacraments involve everyone and are central to our lives as Catholics

Koinonia difficult when so many ‘squeeze’ Mass into their weekend

Need to recognise that Sunday has changed for many – often a day of work or shopping with the family
 


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Commitment to weekly Mass as an obligation has changed for many too

Acts 2:42 is fundamental to our understanding of Communion

As we receive Holy Communion, we need to celebrate communion with Christ and each other

Must acknowledge negative factors as well as positive

Communion is sharing the sacred

Community is sharing social activities and events

For Koinonia to exist we need to develop a sense of ownership / belonging – a sense of community

We live in a society where we are conditioned towards individualism


LITURGY


The Mass is at the centre of our lives in community

Fostering a love and passion for the Eucharist is central for formation and community

Need more formation on what the Mass is – reconnect with rich symbolism

Mass is about praise and sacrifice

We have too many Masses

Need to understand what we mean by ‘good’ liturgy

How do we ensure involvement / participation?

Preaching must connect to real life

Need to avoid long, boring,  mind-numbing sermons

Singing is a much neglected ministry

Children’s Liturgy of the Word very important

Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist take Holy Communion to the sick and housebound – they are sent with love from the gathered assembly
 


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Priests are often so busy that celebrating the Eucharist can seem as just one duty among many – but priests also need the Eucharist. We should prepare carefully for the celebration of the sacraments as the way to revive and enliven the Church.

Need to reach young people through Christian music
 


PRAYER

 


Through everything we need an emphasis on prayer

Prayer is at the heart of all community

Need to encourage spiritual dimension to decision making – not just about maintenance

Concern about the prayer life of individuals and community

Parishes should be schools of prayer

Rosary and Benediction still have their place

Need to consider renewal of sacrament of Penance

House groups support prayer life
 


WELCOME

 


The whole area of Welcome needs developing

Need to be inclusive

Clergy need to feel welcomed by parishioners too – a smile instead of a frown would be welcomed sometimes

Baptism and other sacraments are opportunities to welcome people back

Social events help to get to know one another and give sense of community

We can come across as unwelcoming to those who are divorced / remarried / living together – many of whom are parents in long standing relationships
 


 
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CHURCH

 


Church has moved from a ‘Fortress’ mentality to celebrating diversity, being inclusive and part of the local community - it is the Church in the world

Different ecclesiologies can be obstructive

Need to be a listening and a hearing Church

Need to encourage devotion to Mary as a very important model for the Church

There is a gap between the official Church and real life
 


CLERGY

 


Clergy need to feel confident about the future

A call for clergy to look at themselves – in danger of becoming demoralised, isolated and defensive – need to affirm and support one another

Without a priest there is no parish

Clarify and strengthen the role of the deacon

Deacons could have a clear role in reaching those on the margins

Some clergy miss opportunities to meet together – meeting together is important for a shared sense of ministry

Leadership style of a parish priest can get in the way of community development especially at handovers

We need to preach the Gospel more positively

Administration gets in the way – it over burdens us

Hand admin. over to qualified lay people –finance for this?

We’re often too busy with the wrong things

Clergy are very busy and must be allowed to set priorities
 

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LAITY

 


Need to discern and engage gifts of all

Our parishes are resourced with committed, gifted laity we need to enable them to use their gifts

Over the years there has been a change of culture that says that being a Catholic is more than attending Mass and ‘helping’ Father

We need to encourage a culture of people working with us not for us.

Need to develop a model of collaborative leadership

The priest is the leader of the parish community – need to define this leadership

We need to formally recognise roles and responsibilities

Celebrate the work that is done by the quiet workers too

A shared vision for the community is needed

We need to encourage participation and enable a sense of vocation in the laity

Discernment needed in selecting lay leaders

Need training for lay leadership e.g. youth ministry

Need to consider paid posts

Our parishes have core of generous and committed people – only the same people ‘help’ – a small percentage – need to avoid overloading the willing

We must recognise that the people are the Church not clerics

Groups in the parish could work more effectively together

Clergy must recognise that lay apostolate is not to be found primarily in the parish – it is also in the family, the work place and society at large – we must support them in this
 


SCHOOLS

 


Stronger parish / school links needed

Children and schools are opportunities for community development

Children should be treated as individuals
 


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CHALLENGES

 

 
The challenge of individualism, secularism, consumerism, relativism and the pursuit of happiness

Apathy – ‘we’re too busy’

Lack of loyalty to a community

Separate communities around each ‘Mass Time’

People seem to be working all the hours God gave them and have precious little time for their own family let alone parish

We need good quality catechesis for all

How to maintain Catholicity with diversity

Are we losing a sense of the sacred?

Allowing and empowering the laity

Lack of knowledge / formation

Lack of confidence on part of laity

Remembering to consider the less vocal

Isolation of rural parishes

Transport to Mass and other parish / deanery activities

Different models of church and views on liturgy can confuse

The challenge is to offer hope in difficult times

Finding finances for changes

Narrow minded, touchy people who obstruct others

Are people using Child Protection procedures as an excuse not to participate / lead / organise?

How to support the spiritual nourishment in our homes and families

Humane Vitae – an inability to talk about sex, broken and second marriages and sex outside the married state.

Breakdown of marriages

Attitude of soap operas

Immaturity of faith
 


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Mixed messages – women are welcome... up to a point

Engaging with young people

Failure to develop collaborative ministry effectively

Ecumenism – all should be involved
 


FORMATION

 


Good quality formation needed

-         What community is

-         What the Church is for

-         Opportunities to grow in faith – CaFE etc

-         For elderly, young, sick, refugees, special needs

-         Based on the new Catechism of the Catholic Church

Christian Education Centre need to be more available at deanery level

Small group network in parishes can aid formation

Finance will be needed if deanery level catechetical leaders/

co-ordinators are appointed

 

Courses could be run across several parishes / deanery
 


DIOCESE

 

 
Ad Clerum communication vital for all clergy

People often don’t know what diocese they are in

Shape and size of the diocese is a challenge – as is urban / rural dimension

Sense of diocese maintained through diocesan Masses and celebrations – Wedding Anniversaries, Rite of Election, Chrism Mass etc

Could we have group Confirmations at the cathedral?

Area bishops can get to know parishes and clergy but do they distance us from head of diocese?

Deacons are not as included as well as priests

Diocesan Agencies need to reviewed in the light of an emphasis on Koinonia

Diocesan Agencies are too small for the size of the diocese
 


 
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DEANERY

 

 
People don’t feel that they belong to a deanery

Need to develop a deanery identity

The deanery is good for clergy to get to know each other and work together – mutual support is very important

The Deanery Pastoral Council is attended by sincere people but something more is needed for deanery parishes to collaborate and co-operate more effectively.

A deanery newsletter, Deanery Masses would aid sense of community

Clergy already overworked so often deanery initiatives falter

What’s the deanery for and why support it?

What do bishops expect from deanery?

Need a shared concern for the deanery to come together

A deanery Confirmation ceremony?

Need to overcome compartmentalisation in parish and deanery
 


PARISH

 


Parishes are structures that enable

Parish Pastoral Councils / Teams are effective when members all work together

Parish should encourage lay groups

Parish provides opportunities to serve needy, sick, elderly, young etc
 


RESOURCES

 


We are blessed with many resources

-         Priests

-         People

-         PPC / Teams

-         School Heads and teachers

-         Chaplaincies

-         Catechists

-         Religious

-         Retired priests
 


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Additional notes

 
What can we learn from Evangelical Churches and models of church abroad?

Need to explain our culture of church to those from overseas so that they could be more comfortable e.g. that we do talk in church before and after Mass

Listening 2004 identified that the Church was not seen as listening – a lot of time and effort went into that process – to what effect?

Are we still excluding people?
 

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REACHING OUT IN MISSION

The statements on the following pages are a summary of the clergy responses to these questions:

1.        How can we reach out in mission to believers and non-believers? (e.g. Through the workplace, school/college, family, local community, parish). What do we need to empower us to be more effective and confident in that work of evangelisation? What particular experiences have helped you? (e.g. CaFE, RCIA, Youth 2000, Parish Missions)

2
.        Living out communion calls us to be inclusive to all peoples. How do we ensure inclusion of multi-ethnic/cultural, single/married, young/old and people with disabilities within our parishes? How do we celebrate and value the richness each group brings? 

3
.        How do we encourage and seek opportunities for dialogue with our neighbours of other faiths?

4
.        In what ways do we reach out and show solidarity with those who are in the greatest need in our local area? In what projects or causes are we involved, either as individuals or groups, which promote, for example, justice and peace, the sanctity of life, care of the environment, work with refugees, the homeless? 

5
.        Are there any people in our communities whom we support in a specific apostolate? (e.g. Youth Worker, Pastoral Assistant, Hospital Visitor, Counsellor, Lay Chaplain) What particular initiatives have meant good news for your parish or deanery? 

 


PRAYER AND SPIRITUALITY

 


Need to be rooted in the Holy Spirit

Where and how do we offer enriching prayer experiences?

Need to build prayerful and prayer-filled communities

Need to reconnect with principles of the early church – see Acts

Profound interior renewal is needed

Do we provide opportunities for people to access the love of God in our parishes?

Dismissal at Mass is a call to action

Need to develop the visible holiness of the Church

Parish missions and retreats welcome all
 


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Sacramental celebrations, funerals and major feasts offer real opportunities for meeting people on the edges and beyond

Families are central to mission and evangelisation

-         Support parents as first educators

-         Encourage simple prayer practices at home

-         Encourage a Sacred Space at home

Church needs to be more pro-family

Offer more support where one spouse is not Catholic

Need to aim at self-development under the guidance of the Holy Spirit which in turn will lead to recognising the Holy Spirit in the life of others. This recognition will prevent the danger of not recognising or using the charisms of the Holy Spirit
 


EVANGELISATION

 


Evangelisation is ‘...the fundamental task of the Church...’ Ad Gentes

Generally our Church is not an evangelising presence in this country

Church structures not oriented towards evangelisation but to maintaining what we have

We witness by example

Laity witness at work and in society at large

Should not only encourage laity to take on more ‘clerical roles’ and ‘church work’ but also live their vocation in the world

How eager are people to evangelise?

All in community can be involved in mission

Need to express the love and presence of God

Message = The commandments are life giving

Evangelisation is an ongoing task for all generations

Evangelisation is sense of joy in Spirit filled New Testament Church 
 


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St Francis – ‘...preach the gospel at all times and where necessary use words...’

St Teresa – ‘... Christ has no body now but yours...’

We need to respond rapidly to requests for baptism and entering the Church

We need to show our humanity and friendship – get out of the office!

We are instruments for evangelisation – leaven in the dough
 


OTHER DENOMINATIONS & FAITHS

 

 


Reaching out and offering friendship very important

Many priests and laity interested in promoting greater understanding and are active in groups such as

-         3 Faiths Forum

-         Council for Christians and Jews

-         Wimbledon Inter-Faith

Priests and parishioners can be active on local councils in their events, groups and committees

There is little awareness of any dialogue in some areas

We could pray together and visit places of worship

Opportunities not activated in some parishes

We could share facilities

Reach out in times of stress or trial to other faiths e.g. removing graffiti on Moses Montefiore Synagogue

Silent prayer could be a way of attendees praying together

Priests could encourage participation

Attend fraternal minister meetings

Do what we can together

Can be easier to get together with those of no faith – sometimes other faiths often just want to tell us how wrong we are

 We can stand together with other denominations and faiths against secularism and for the family and clear moral and social teaching
 


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SOCIETY

 


There can be a perception of implicit ‘badness’ in institutional religion

Secularisation is not neutral – it is anti-Christian

Need to be wary of being ‘lumped’ into the ‘something spiritual’ group and losing our identity as Catholics

Walks of Witness are often routed down back streets

Secular marketing - sell first themselves, then the product, then the company – we often seem to do this in reverse
 


WELCOME

 


Inclusion is vital for community and mission

Develop a sense of belonging

Celebrate diversity and be inclusive

Celebrate the multi-cultural diversity of parish life

Use inclusive language in Mass

Reach out to immigrants

Message = all are valued and included

Social activities very important

Discourage cliques

Engagement and integration of so many is a challenge

Offer parish facilities to wider community

If we cater for everybody are we in danger of catering for nobody?

Single people often left out

Everyone is welcome but they must respect the values of communion in liturgy and teaching
 


 
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SCHOOLS

 


Have a really important role in outreach to others

Many non-RC parents attracted and involved

Need to encourage recognition that schools are centres of involvement in and with the community

They are centres for faith formation in partnership with home and parish

Some concern that not always sure of the content of the faith formation taught in our schools

Review content of faith taught in schools and re-establish connection between content of faith and object of faith

New Catechism should be the basis so that there is a clear vision of Christ and his Church proclaimed

How successful are our Catholic schools in encouraging attendance at Mass and involvement in their parish?

Need a priestly, pastoral presence in schools

Schools can have a very wide catchment area which can make contact and sense of local community with young people difficult

Have a wealth of experience of including other cultures, traditions etc
 


YOUNG PEOPLE

 

 
There is some excellent work by priests and catechists in sacramental programmes

Some parishes have lively youth groups

A parish has employed a youth worker

Recreational activities in parish are not up to the standard required or expected

Parish youth work presents challenges

We need our own Youth Ministry as a Church

One deanery looking forward to SCYS working with them soon

Could a deanery support a paid youth worker?
 


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FORMATION

 


Formation needed to give people confidence in their gifts

Small groups can help to give confidence

Formation can help move people from a reluctance to a readiness to share faith

Needs to be formation for mission and evangelisation as well as catechesis

Church teaching on exclusion from Communion – too many think that they are excluded

Need to be more formation on justice and peace issues
 


THOSE IN NEED

 


Social teaching of the Church is not an add on extra

Charity work done by the Church has gradually been taken over by the state and requires a high professional standard – we could encourage laity to be involved in voluntary sector organisations

A lot is happening but not universally  - don’t need to reinvent just breathe life into existing structures

Catholic parishes are active in their local communities through activities such as

-         SVP                              - Legion of Mary

-         FISH                             - Manna Centre

-         Offering financial support

-         Vineyard Lunch            - Refugee Centres

-         Inter-faith Youth Project

-         Churches Together      - Pilsdon Community

-     Prison visitations

Catholic parishes are involved nationally and internationally through

-         CAFOD                         - Pax Christi

-         SPUC                            - CIIR

-         Progressio                    - Fairtrade

-     J&P Groups

 

There is still some ignorance on sanctity of life issues

As Mother Theresa said – we are not social workers – our mission is to bring Gospel to others through our actions
 


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Additional notes

 

 
It is important for priests to be among the people and share their lives not simply provide a service. We need to find ways to facilitate interaction – it is a challenge to minister to people who are so busy

Priests are in need of greater confidence and this can be gained through closer intimacy with Christ. Unless we are men of communion we will not be able to provide a place of true communion for all.

Need to support our chaplaincies in hospitals, prisons, colleges and universities

We need to be stewards of creation and more involved in environmental activities

We need to focus on mission to renew identity of the Church

Our mission is to transform the world with Gospel values

Need to celebrate what is distinctive and what is unifying e.g. praying the Lord’s prayer in different languages at Pentecost

Q2 above excluded but should have included divorced, women and homosexuals

Need to highlight the ministry of women

Parishes can encourage new movements but be careful they don’t become elite institutions

Admin gets in the way of mission

Needs to be spiritual dimension to stewardship

How will we put all this into practice – priests are not really overworked but overwhelmed

Clarity needed on correct theological understanding of the ministerial priesthood and common priesthood of all Christians

Lots of great ideas but what will ultimately come out of this process?
 

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FACING THE FUTURE

 The statements on the following pages are a summary of the clergy responses to these questions:

1.                 
What are the resources (strengths and gifts) in our parish?

2.                 
How would we respond to a situation in which our parish, or a neighbouring parish, had no resident             priest? What forms of collaboration and coordination could develop? 

3.                
Are there any special areas of pastoral provision in this deanery that need to be taken into account for             the future? (e.g. Hospitals? Schools? Prisons? Future housing developments?)

4.                 Are there any particular changes in pastoral provision that we can recommend for our deanery?
 

 


HOPES

 

 
Not a time of crisis but of new growth, a new spring time – a wonderful opportunity to implement Vatican II

Considerable hope that parishes will become vibrant and holy schools of prayer through this Towards a Vision process

Early church didn’t know what was going to happen to them – one thing clear they were firmly rooted in prayer and fellowship

Young families are always a sign of hope

Clear signs, through the power of the Holy Spirit, of growth in faith and in communion with Christ and his Church – the clear vision, teaching and universal nature of the Catholic Church is reaching many

Hope that this process will empower laity

Hope that there will be goodwill throughout this process

Hope that more will step forward for ministry

Hope that Lay leadership will evolve from this process – but clergy must handover to people - let go!
 


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FEARS

 


Exhaustion – too many demands already

Too much upheaval - many clergy are at a time in their life when they want to slow down

That any changes will be piecemeal – reactive